Today had some amusement. There's this guy that was paying us $8.50 a month to be allowed to have his website in his signature on The Attraction Forums, who's been with us for a few months. He's been banned for spamming before but promised better behavior. Anyway, on Monday afternoon, I get some email about an "IP ban". 31 minutes later, I get a followup email. It gets funnier from there. Here are the emails.
Monday - 2:46pm
It's [name deleted], your buddy, haha.Monday - 3:17pm (31 minutes later)
Anyway, I'd like to get the IP unbanned off my Address.
Let me know if you need any info to do that.
Yours truly,
Hi, what's the deal?I responded saying I would look into it. I was out of the office all on Tuesday. Here's what came through:
Tuesday - 8:18am
You not getting back to me promptly.Tuesday - 11:09am
I really can't let this continue for more than a day.
Could I please help you resolve this and get it over with?
This is such a trivial matter, it's just a forum!
Nick?Tuesday - 7:13pm
I find your behavior as very rude.Tuesday, 7:20pm (7 minutes later, and 1 day, 4 hours after his original message)
You know I'm asking you and asking you to help me out and you take your sweet fancy fucking time.
It's discusting and I'm discusted.
How can't I be?
Now you're probably going to make an excuse or say you get 20 emails a day or whatever, but I can't buy into it.
You also may say, "just take your money back, we're through"
But you know what, that'd be bullshit too.
So please, get back to me. I will not ask again or I will contact whoever needs to be contacted to get this resolved.
Yours truly,
By the way, this is very unprofessional of you to do.Wednesday, 8:43am
If you're a real CEO, you would help me out right away, not let this go on for weeks like it has.
This is very frustrating and I'm very embarrased that I'm having to contact you this much to remove a "forum IP ban".
This should not be taking this long, not by any normal business practice measure..
My reply, Wednesday 9:33am
Hi [name],Wednesday 9:53am:
I’m sorry that I am not going to be able to offer you minute-by-minute support. I am going to have your money refunded [ed: we even refunded him his previous months] and we can go our separate ways, and therefore our business process will no longer get in your way.
Best,
Nick Savoy
I do not want my money refunded.And again, two minutes later (Wednesday, 9:55am) - about 1.5 days since the original email:
I would like to get back on your forum.
Don't make this anymore difficult than it already is.
Sir, you do realize that it has been over one week since I've even had any contact with you?My reply, Wednesday 9:59am
You must acknowledge that that is a very long time for a small matter like getting an IP ban removed.
Hey man, it’s a business decision. It’s our company and we’ll let whoever we want onto the forums. It’s clear that you expect a level of service and responsiveness that is just something beyond our capabilities.Wednesday, 11:12am:
I am very sorry we’ve disappointed you. Giving you a full refund is more than fair. By terminating our relationship, this avoids you being disappointed in us again.
This decision has already been made. I’m sorry if you are disappointed. Please let me know if you don’t get a refund by the end of the week.
Best,
Nick Savoy
You have humiliated me.This is where I obviously should have dropped it. But it was starting to provide comic relief on an otherwise annoying day, so, avoiding anything offensive like signing my email "Best, Savoy", I soldiered on...
I just needed to get my IP ban removed.
And you're being a fucking jerk.
I will make sure to spread the word on your poor company practice in my reviews.
I think you're more vile than dirt.
Don't candy coat your e-mails with "Best, Savoy" it is such a phony way of communicating. Be real.
I will not let this go.
My reply, Wednesday 11:27am
No humiliation intended. We just can’t keep up with the service levels you expect. Rather than have you disappointed in the future, it is best to admit that we cannot provide the service level you expect. How on earth are you humiliated?
Savoy
Wednesday, 11:31am (4 minutes later):
Sir, let me make it clear.And then, 3 minutes later, Wednesday at 11:34am, which seems identical except for the subject line:
I do not ask for any crazy about of service from you.
I just ask for the ban on my IP to be removed on the forums.
I have been in the IT industry, I know that is a very easy task to do.
After this problem solved, there is nothing more I need you guys for so you won't need to worry or deal with my "levels of service"
You can say, "well, then why use our service if you don't like our business practice?"
Because your online forum has been so valuable to me and my career and picking up women.
I have yet to find a "Forum" like it.
Please reply,
[name]
Subject Line: *revised*...which I declined to do. Eliciting this mail on Wednesday, 5:32pm:
Sir, let me make it clear.
I do not ask for any crazy amount of service from you.
I just ask for the ban on my IP to be removed on the forums.
I have been in the IT industry, I know that is a very easy task to do.
After this problem solved, there is nothing more I need you guys for so you won't need to worry or deal with my "level of service expectations"
In response, you can say, "well, then why use our service if you don't like our business practice?"
Because your online forum has been so valuable to me and my career and picking up women.
I have yet to find a "Forum" like it.
Please reply,
\(the "rest of them" those awful people who give refunds too quickly...that's a real problem in the world these days. Just the other day, I got a refund on my phone bill and it came in 5 days. Much, much too fast. I was livid. I've already written 17 emails of complaint)
You know it's funny, you were fast to refund my payment but not fast to remove the IP ban.
Get lost, you're just like the rest of them.
My reply, Wednesday 6:07pm
Wait a minute...you’re COMPLAINING that we were TOO FAST to REFUND you?
This has to be a first.
Dude, I have no idea what an IP ban is, how to set one, or how to change one. You emailed me about this Monday night. You mailed me 28 minutes later to ask me why I hadn’t done anything. There were 5+ more emails by the time I checked email Tuesday night (I was out of the office all day Tuesday), most of which were insulting. Seriously, I don’t have the time for that. Or to look up what the hell an IP ban is, if you’re going to be rude.
So I think this ends our conversation. I’m genuinely sorry it didn’t work out. I hope you find a forum more suited to your needs.
Nick
Epilogue: It turns out - when I talked to the forum admins - that no one knowingly banned his IP address - we're still not sure what he was talking about. In the admin's words, "you have to do some seriously shady stuff to get your IP banned". Though it's unclear what the problem was, because he used 20+ different IPs to post (nothing wrong with that in itself) and his account was active and accessible.
Now it's 9:02pm and I'm starting to miss them. One day I'll have a contest.
10 comments:
Whatever insecurities I had about how I've handled myself in my professional relationships just vanished. Yes, I have things I could have done better, just as any PUA knows of sticking points in their game... but good lord!
The problem with you being so ethical is that we won't get to find out who this person was. Sucks!
Is that actually a guy? This person has the "the universe revolves around me" mentality and he probably was spoilt as a kid when he threw tantrums in public just to embarass his parents.
some people are just freaken crazy, huh?
"Customer is always right" my ass. Although I've never heard of a forum that had a payment plan to allow links in signature.
haha I love those people with no concept of having more important priorities to work on. I used to be that way as well. Since my schedule has gotten crazy I only now get why people didn't immediately respond. Haha
Dude, can you imagine what he does when a woman doesn't call him back?
Careful Nick he might stalk you.
Hahah.. I just posted about the relevance of this to dating.
This was hilarious! The phrase "sweet fancy fucking time" has been added to vocab - it's too classic.
I bet I know why his IP was banned from the forum. He was most likely stuffing hidden affiliate cookies in his image tags. Forums like yours are very vulnerable to this.
This is the funniest post ever. My sides are aching :-)
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